Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water . . . . .

Only a couple of months since my last blog entry, so quite regular really. Although nothing has happened on the wargaming front since my last raid, it doesn’t mean it hasn’t been on my mind. To be honest, between hospitals and house stuff, it’s about the only thing that’s kept me relatively sane. 

Did I say I’d acquired a copy of the new(ish) ‘Baroque’ rules from Dadi & Piombo? 

They’re a nice set of rules and have easy mechanics and I think they’ll give a pretty good game, but, as they cover a one hundred and fifty year time span, they’re not that strong on giving the ‘period flavour’ of specific conflicts, or at least the features of a particular conflict that make a wargamer prefer, say the Thirty Years’ War to the English Civil War., but that’s not their aim. If you want to go the whole hog, it’s possible to base everything on 6cm square bases (three per unit for foot, dragoons and horse and one for guns) which makes basing simple. They do have specific army lists (ugh!) which go a fair way to reproducing various armies, but if you’re looking for something to reproduce your particular take on the Nine Years’ War or the atmosphere of The Last Valley, then you need to get something more specific. That’s not to say you can’t make a reasonable go of reproducing a particular conflict and there’s no such thing as a set of rules you can’t tweak, but it all depends on how much effort you want to put in and how historically accurate your interpretation of that period actually is compared with what D&P have produced. Back to my thoughts on the accuracy or otherwise of a wargamer’s view of an historical period is. We also have a nasty habit of strict ‘periodisation’ so history is often thought of as being made up of distinct chunks of time without any consideration given to the process of military and/or technological evolution (cue debate about mid to late nineteenth century warfare in Europe and America).

In a way, they remind me of the old WRG 1685 – 1845 rules which appeared in ‘77.

They were a bit of a game changer in their day, but gave the gamer the facility to build up characteristics of units which gave a reasonable reproduction of the real thing. They did cause a few headaches with their mechanics at first and their terminology was a bit idiosyncratic (‘Irregular soldier skirmishing infantry with jezzail’ and such), but they did give a good game – and still do for some gamers. By the way there are some derivatives, ‘Elan’ for Napoleonics and ‘Pro Gloria’ for the Seven Years’ War, for example – other rule sets are available . . . .

Despite my oath not to buy more lead until the current ballast is painted and based or has found its way to other venues, I succumbed to a few boxes of the new Perry ACW releases. The temptation just got too much for me, but regrets have I none. They’re much better cast than has become the norm of late and they contain some nice characters. Although I got a mixed bunch, they are all destined for the Confederacy with on ly a few exceptions. The object of the exercise is to produce some ‘firing line’ regiments composed of a mix of Perry, Foundry and maybe Redoubt figures with some adapted Empress Miniatures’ Maori War castings thrown in for good measure. Only a few mind as they’re eye wateringly expensive – seven quid plus postage for four figures! I’m no skinflint, but I’m unenthusiastic about trying single handedly to improve their liquidity ratio.  However a few of my favourites swiped from the Perry site:


  1. Look for are to seeing those troops painted up Gary!

    1. At the moment they'd stand a very strong chance if their uniform colour was Magnolia!

  2. Glad to see you are still with us!

    I pe-orders Baroque and received a copy straight after publication. Having enjoyed BI and Impetvs, I looked forward to giving Baroque a try with my ECW armies. Played a few games and enjoyed the games greatly. Baroque produces a good game.

    Hope the hands are healing.

    1. Ah, rumours of my death and all that . . .

      I'll rejig my ECW stuff for the Bartoque rules as they'll give a reasonablly fast game which can be completed in between other time eaters. I like the Impetus gasme style and the way int encourages gamers to be a bit more dreative in the presentation of their armies. I'm still fascinated though at the way we slavishly follow army lists even when not involved in competition gaming. However, I digress.

      The hands seem to be on a cycle of about a fortnight's duration, going from fine(ish) to horrible. I'm onto my third consultant now, so I'm prepared for the long haul - two years so far :O))))))

    2. I am not a slave to Army Lists. I use Historical OBs and refight the historical action without the constraint of points or lists. Lists are simply a guide in my book to ascertain relative strength.

    3. Same here, although I don't 'do' periods I have no historical interest in, but I do read them (if they're free usually), it's more like comparing notes. I have to confess to the hunt for the killer army in my WRG Ancients phase, but it petered out after the third edition - or that might have been because of the rule lawyers . . . .

      In his early teens, my son used to go to Games Workshop for the weekend gaming until he was challenged because he'd made a sllip up in the force he fielded (Ultra Marines, I think). His defence that it didn't matter that much as it's all fantasy anyway nearly got him lynched. He came home, dumped his kit in the corner of his bedroom and never gamed anything again except for a DBA phase with me.

      So, it's not the army lists per se I mind so much as the effect they have on much of the hobby and the fact that in 99% of cases, the authors don't quote references or sources. They could be making anything up and don't encourage gamers to do their own research. The lists can be a useful guide if they're properly put together.

  3. I always liked that cover and have only just realised it is not a design on the flag but a cannonball going through, duh.

    1. Well, I have to admit, after the first read through, the cover was the only bit I understood! 🤔

  4. Thanks for the review of "Baroque". Very useful. I've been looking at these rules for a while, but I've resisted so far. I'm really looking for something much more specific - focusing on the 1660-1690 period in Western Europe. (I don't need pike columns, aristocratic Gendarmes, Polish hussaren, and so on). I do remember the WRG rules you mentioned, and also remember VERY well (a bit like an acid flashback) the WRG Renaissance rules. Both were revolutionary in their own way, and they're fun to re-read now. But we've moved on a way from there, I think! Well, maybe.....!! ;)


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